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Five years ago, July 2019, I noticed lupin flowers growing along both sides of highway 230 on my trips to the grocery stores; I would look to see if anyone was looking, then surreptitiously grab a handful of pods and drop them in my jacket packet(1). Once home I stored them in an old envelope for planting next year. I wanted colourful flowers in my new gardens.
Today I see them as the weed they are, and yank the new plants out by the handful; it's what compost bins were invented for!
Yesterday a visitor asked me about the artichoke plants sprouting everywhere. "Weeds!" I replied; I'm done growing acres(!) of nine-foot high plants. That got us onto Dandelions and their nutrition value.
And that has made me think about lupin seeds.
are lupins edible suggests that as pulses they can be eaten. Suitably softened and boiled and so on. So there is little doubt in my mind that i could now harvest these seed pods (literally thousands of them up for grabs) and shell them, and use the pods to make, say, baked beans. Another cost-cutting and awareness item for my repertoire.
So now I am asking the most pessimistic of you if you know of any truly bad side effects of lupin seeds ("beans") when properly cooked?
This article in particular caught my eye.
Thanks, Chris
(1) Well it was July!
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Re: Are LUPIN seeds toxic?
Lupins are popular here among vegetarians/vegans as a source of protein. I assume that "sweet lupins" are used.
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Thanks, Hans, but you are not being negative enough
Mervyn, two doors down, told me something about lupins five years ago, and he works for Parks And Rec. (or similar), so I will pump him for local knowledge next time I catch him mowing his lawn.
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Re: Are LUPIN seeds toxic?
Are lupin seeds deeply toxic and lethal?
The answer seems to be, "It depends..." on which variety you are employing.
"Lupin seeds can be used to make flour. Lupin flour may be found as an ingredient in pastas and baked goods such as waffles or pancakes, especially in products imported from other parts of Europe. If you think you might be allergic to lupin, visit your GP who can refer you to an allergy specialist if needed." says Anaphylaxis UK. About 1% of lupin-eating persons are found to be allergic to them, with a greater percentage if you are also allergic to peanuts.
All I can say, then, is "Good luck, Chris"!
The answer seems to be, "It depends..." on which variety you are employing.
"Lupin seeds can be used to make flour. Lupin flour may be found as an ingredient in pastas and baked goods such as waffles or pancakes, especially in products imported from other parts of Europe. If you think you might be allergic to lupin, visit your GP who can refer you to an allergy specialist if needed." says Anaphylaxis UK. About 1% of lupin-eating persons are found to be allergic to them, with a greater percentage if you are also allergic to peanuts.
All I can say, then, is "Good luck, Chris"!
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Re: Are LUPIN seeds toxic?
Thank you John, I have checked with Mervyn ("Parks and Rec." fellow two doors down) and will check with my Newfoundland Wildflower seeds expert 100 Km east of me, and THEN check out seed suppliers across Canada, but it seems that "sweet lupins" are the recommended type (species?)
Flour is way above my pay grade."Lupin seeds can be used to make flour. Lupin flour may be found as an ingredient in pastas and baked goods such as waffles or pancakes, especially in products imported from other parts of Europe. If you think you might be allergic to lupin, visit your GP ...
I am hoping for "baked beans" and that's about it. A large part of this is co-educational, finding out what alternative sources of food are available in Newfoundland, apart from those grown in or near Bakersfield California or in Chile etc.
As always, my Australian heritage keeps me conscious of 'invasive species", "pests", "disease" and so on.
Cheers, Chris
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You are really being too hard on yourself!ChrisGreaves wrote: ↑21 Jul 2024, 13:40As always, my Australian heritage keeps me conscious of 'invasive species", "pests", "disease" and so on.
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Hi John.
I'm sure you have been following the past fortnight's discussion of how US citizens expect a glass of water with every meal whereas Europeans don't expect water. And every other worldwide discussion of cultural differences.
Here I think that Europeans, living densely as they do on a peninsula of the huge Asian continent can not have the same views as someone who grew up on an island continent. Australians live with the results of the original colonists decision to bring with them carnivores (domestic cats) and herbivores (rabbits) to name but two of the invasive species with which Australians deal nowadays.
As for diseases etc I well remember the days when all passengers on all aeroplanes arriving from overseas had to remove shoes and socks (and, perhaps in those days, stockings held up by garter belts?) and walk through a six-foot long tray of a solution of Potassium Permanganate.
Made sense to me at the time, but was possibly an over-reaction.
People travelling by car from New South Wales via Victoria to Adelaide South Australia (I speak from experience in 1970) would be stopped at various points where they crossed a fruit-growing region, not at a state border, and the car inspected for fruit. Twenty miles east of Norseman WA was a very relaxed checkpoint. They were not relaxed about the fruit, but knew deep in their hearts that if you tried to scoot, in the twenty minutes it took you to reach Norseman you would be trapped like a rat; there was nowhere else to go EXCEPT Norseman.
I think that if one grows up in that environment the idea stays embedded deep within you.
In Europe (including the UK) I suspect that for ever, the political/national boundaries have been just that; people recognise that birds have no view of national boundaries, nor do wild animals or viruses.
So here I am on an island, with good contact with two people who know-about-these-things and what can I do except respect the local feelings about invasive species.
I suspect that there are still some pockets of the US where people would be horrified/amazed that in Bonavista I don't pack a pistol before heading off to Foodland, but that's just the way different people live.
Cheers, Chris
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Re: Are LUPIN seeds toxic?
Growing up in Oz, I have clear memories of being sprayed before disembarking a plane (no nasty foot baths) and the fruit inspection gates-all part of the grand pattern of Australian concerns about fruit fly and other invasive nasties.
Throwing any accompanying fruit of of the car window before reaching the gate was a sacrifice borne with less than polite acceptance. I wonder whether any apple orchards sprang up a few miles before the gates.
Throwing any accompanying fruit of of the car window before reaching the gate was a sacrifice borne with less than polite acceptance. I wonder whether any apple orchards sprang up a few miles before the gates.
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Yes, Amelia. When in 1993 I landed in Perth, it was an aerosol can carried down the aisle by the prettiest stewardess, I suppose to reduce complaints by male passengers.Amelia43 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2024, 18:44Growing up in Oz, I have clear memories of being sprayed before disembarking a plane (no nasty foot baths) and the fruit inspection gates-all part of the grand pattern of Australian concerns about fruit fly and other invasive nasties.
Throwing any accompanying fruit of of the car window before reaching the gate was a sacrifice borne with less than polite acceptance. I wonder whether any apple orchards sprang up a few miles before the gates.
Our fruit was handed from the car to the officers for placement in the 44-gallon drum which was ignited with a cup of kerosene.
I lived in Gawler for seven years, right close to The Barossa Valley and well within the Adelaide fruit-growing region.
Cheers, Chris
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Re: Are LUPIN seeds toxic?
I've not driven to California since 1955; although I've been there on quite a few occasions since then. I well remember that CA had inspection points on the highway to take your fruits and veggies in 1955.
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Bob, that surprises me, but then, well that was 1955, and I didn't start driving across/around the USA until 1990.
I can't recall ever driving through a fruit/vegetable check point, and I have driven in every mainland state at least twice over the years.
I think of the USA as a set of states without real borders. I am aware that road laws vary from state to state, but have ever been amazed that once I crossed the border at Lewiston I was free to travel wherever I wanted, all the way between San Diego and Fairbanks, without let or hindrance.
And certainly no stopping for fruit inspection.
Cheers, Chris
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