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I have written to the ABC:-

Your page https://www.abc.net.au/everyday/do-you- ... /100538794 reads "Not washing your rice doesn't carry a food safety risk, as bacteria will be killed as the rice cooks"

Your page https://www.abc.net.au/everyday/bacillu ... t/11324446 reads "Unfortunately, the cooking process doesn't kill the heat-resistant spores or the toxin the bacteria produces"

So: If I die from eating contaminated rice, believing the content of the first page, can I sue the ABC?


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Try suing the ABC before you die...
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HansV wrote:
18 Apr 2022, 09:40
Try suing the ABC before you die...
Oh Hans, it's not about the money.
My goal is to get their lawyers fired! :evilgrin: (Hi Charles :hello:)

So, if boiling doesn't kill the bacteria, cooked rice goes into the compost heap, where the animiculae eat it and then are consumed by earth-worms, eh?
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As I read it, boiling rice kills the bacteria but not their heat-resistant spores. Quickly refrigerating boiled rice that you're not going to eat immediately will slow down the spores, so that you can safely keep it stored for a day or two. But you should definitely throw it out after that.
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What wonderful humour :clapping:

But I better stop eating cold, cooked rice. Been using up the leftovers for years. :groan:
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RonH wrote:
18 Apr 2022, 11:37
But I better stop eating cold, cooked rice. Been using up the leftovers for years. :groan:
Great Scot! Ron.
Why not do as I do and just boil one cup of rice at a time? :grin:
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HansV wrote:
18 Apr 2022, 10:34
As I read it, boiling rice kills the bacteria but not their heat-resistant spores. Quickly refrigerating boiled rice that you're not going to eat immediately will slow down the spores, so that you can safely keep it stored for a day or two. But you should definitely throw it out after that.
I suppose I must have thrown some out, but I generally use it all up within three days, toss it into soups, stews, throw it at young couples as I bicycle past the church, ...
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P.S. I have great confidence in my gut bacteria, and will get dizzy or sick about once every couple of years, which I put down to some toxity in something I have used as an experiment - in small quantities.
I sniff at anything I open, and apply my mantra:-
If in doubt
    Throw it out.

I am still eating bottled pumpkin pulp from last Halloween, and have a jar of carrots I bottled before I left Toronto, and a jar of rice pudding I bottled early 2019.
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ChrisGreaves wrote:
18 Apr 2022, 20:49
RonH wrote:
18 Apr 2022, 11:37
But I better stop eating cold, cooked rice. Been using up the leftovers for years. :groan:
Great Scot! Ron.
Why not do as I do and just boil one cup of rice at a time? :grin:
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I do, using this cup after washing it:grin:
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RonH wrote:
19 Apr 2022, 05:32
I do, using this cup after washing it:grin:
Ron, I'm sorry to be so long in replying. but I am still dithering whether to employ the word "mug" or go with "barmy".
Maybe both? What do you think? :scratch: :grin:
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ChrisGreaves wrote:
19 Apr 2022, 19:41
RonH wrote:
19 Apr 2022, 05:32
I do, using this cup after washing it:grin:
Ron, I'm sorry to be so long in replying. but I am still dithering whether to employ the word "mug" or go with "barmy".
Maybe both? What do you think? :scratch: :grin:
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RonH wrote:
20 Apr 2022, 06:02
Nuff said :bash:
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ChrisGreaves wrote:
20 Apr 2022, 10:49
RonH wrote:
20 Apr 2022, 06:02
Nuff said :bash:
:surrender:
I laughed so much that I nearly ...
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RonH wrote:
20 Apr 2022, 11:08
ChrisGreaves wrote:
20 Apr 2022, 10:49
RonH wrote:
20 Apr 2022, 06:02
Nuff said :bash:
:surrender:
I laughed so much that I nearly ...
dried rice?
Nuff said :bash:
You know, Ron, we can only keep a stale joke going so long before we get thrown out :cooked:
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Bi :cheers:
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On the other hand
Eating cold or reheated rice may help increase your resistant starch intake, which may improve your blood sugar and cholesterol levels.
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/ca ... e#benefits

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Apart from the idiotic headline (Can You Eat Cold Rice? Well, obviously yes. The real question s "is it harmful to do so?") the article is a mish-mash of yes and no. A first read suggested to me that no matter what you do the bacteria/spores combo will thwart your best efforts nit to die.

On the other hand my reasoning tells me that humans around the world must be eating cold rice (with whatever processing is performed) and not dying. So why all the fuss?

Given my age, I probably have a higher risk of food-poisoning than i did fifty years ago, and in the end one factor is bound to "do me in".

I have a jar of rice pudding that I made almost three years ago, and a jar of carrots preserved in Toronto four years ago.
I rather think that, in both cases, boiling the heck out of them (well, twenty minutes, say) will do in whatever "live" stuff is in there, and that immediate consumption will allow my gut bacteria to dis-assemble the spores into protein before they can do whatever it is they do.

That is, I still trust my gut bacteria to do their job.

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Apart from bacteria, the article.points out that the composition of cold.rice changes, and may be beneficial to the health by changing the composition of the starch.

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GeoffW wrote:
06 May 2022, 20:24
Apart from bacteria, the article.points out that the composition of cold rice changes, and may be beneficial to the health by changing the composition of the starch.
Quite so, Geoff; I neglected to mention that.
About ten years ago I read/heard of a study that ran over fifty years. It considered "porridge" in the diet; North Americans were toppling through heart attacks etc, and native Africans weren't. The Africans ate porridge, so North Americans were encouraged to eat porridge (and "roughage". But still kep toppling. Deeper study found that native Africans made a week's supply of porridge, kept it in a big tub, served it cold for a week or so, and made another batch when the pot was running low.
The porridge, sitting for a week, changed in its molecular structure.

That was the gist of the report, and so I can believe that the same might be true of rice or many other grain crop seeds.
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