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What sort of deadhead employee "friends" (sorry Mr Lounge pedant) my business on Facebook, calls in sick, and post on Facbook that he's had a great day?

I imagine a soon-to-be-unemployed deadhead employee.

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Many (young) people don't seem to have the slightest idea of the privacy aspects of social networking sites...
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GeoffW wrote:What sort of deadhead employee ...
This has, of course, been going on for centuries. I have a school-teacher friend who, on Wednesday, starts preparing Friday's lessons for the supply-teacher because "I'm going to be sick on Friday".

Question: In your business, is there a queue of young people clamoring for a job at your shop? That is, will a replacement be an easy-to-hire and serve as a good example?
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The thing which has NOT been going on for centuries is the way in which people voluntarily provide information about themselves in a way which is easily accessible.

This employee asked me to be a friend in Facebook, and proceeded to incriminated himself.

A few years ago, I Googled (is it right for a verb to have a capital letter?) my store. I found a Myspace comment from a trusted employee- "I hate my job and I hate my boss".

And a comment from a former employee-

"I loved working at S... B... Nobody cared how slack I was. Until I got fired".

(Said employee was fired for being slack).

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GeoffW wrote:The thing which has NOT been going on for centuries ...
Quite so; you are correct (and I should add, in the current event I agree with you). I suppose the closest I example would be "nursing a pint of bitter at the local and griping about the boss" in earshot of the boss's staff.

Back to my question: Is there a line-up of people waiting to be employed at Australia's premiere sandwich shop?
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ChrisGreaves wrote:Back to my question: Is there a line-up of people waiting to be employed at Australia's premiere sandwich shop?
Yes, it's easy to find employees.

But it costs to train employees, to pay them full rates while they still perform at quarter speed, and to then determine if they are going to be worth the money in the long term.

Some have estimated that the cost averages $2,000 per employee. Perhaps 150 hours until the good ones rise up enough to be productive and become good employees.

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GeoffW wrote:Some have estimated that the cost averages $2,000 per employee.
Ouch!
I look back to my 9 months at AIS/Wollongong (1968) as a programmer-in-training. None months at about $3,500 p.a., and I've heard that you double a salary to get a better idea of the true cost of an employee. Add in the post-training training in IBM 1401 Autocoder in Newcastle, say another 4 months, it was about $8,000 before they got an ounce of productive work out of me, and even then it was probably just chanting figures from printout test results for the new-issue shares system, not actually programming!

Here is a pre-release version of a blog posting I will make in a couple of week's time. I think that you will appreciate another aspect of idiocy in social networking.
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GeoffW wrote:But it costs to train employees, to pay them full rates while they still perform at quarter speed, and to then determine if they are going to be worth the money in the long term.
Oh boy, there's a universal topic, in most if not all areas of "work" specialties!

I see it in spades all the time in what's usually called the medical profession. Not necessarily doctors and nurses, BUT one of the hardest jobs in that line of work: nursing aides. They don't get paid nearly enough for the back-breaking, emotionally draining work they do.

By the time they get "trained" many of the good ones move on for better pay, don't like the way they're being treated, OR for disciplinary reasons such as your example.

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This person could easily be friends with somebody who works for the company that I work for. This person goes off long term sick, and after being off sick for a while starts appearing on a TV game show where they appear again every week for several weeks.
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Hi Tony

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Thats what my competitors do. All of my drivers have to have a specific attachment to their licence to carry dangerous goods it takes us 3 months on the job training with a £400 4 day exam at the end of it, I would say that at least 33% get it and then go.

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HansV wrote:Many (young) people don't seem to have the slightest idea of the privacy aspects of social networking sites...
I can't see ANY of the aspects worth noting on the "social networking " sites! :flee: :scratch: :mad:
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viking33 wrote:
HansV wrote:Many (young) people don't seem to have the slightest idea of the privacy aspects of social networking sites...
I can't see ANY of the aspects worth noting on the "social networking " sites! :flee: :scratch: :mad:
And what really bothers me is the sheer number of "invitations" I get to join or come and see somebody on one of those sites! I have the unfortunate experience of having registered at a number of them, most quite some time ago. But in most cases, it didn't take me long to discern that it's not something I want to do. You wouldn't believe the number of suspicious or outright pornographic invitations I get and discard.

It hurts me to think that there are some, both friends and former fellow employees, who probably think I'm rude because I don't respond to such invitations.

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Bigaldoc wrote:
viking33 wrote:
HansV wrote:Many (young) people don't seem to have the slightest idea of the privacy aspects of social networking sites...
I can't see ANY of the aspects worth noting on the "social networking " sites! :flee: :scratch: :mad:
And what really bothers me is the sheer number of "invitations" I get to join or come and see somebody on one of those sites! I have the unfortunate experience of having registered at a number of them, most quite some time ago. But in most cases, it didn't take me long to discern that it's not something I want to do. You wouldn't believe the number of suspicious or outright pornographic invitations I get and discard.

It hurts me to think that there are some, both friends and former fellow employees, who probably think I'm rude because I don't respond to such invitations.
I guess we are in that :cranky: :gramps: :notmyfault: mode.
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I don't know and I can't understand what is wrong with young people today with their use of "social networking sites”, in this very specific aspect: they mention more or less private things, even secret things, and some even goes on bashing their employer.

However, it has been going on for a while now, and people have started to notice this, it has been mentioned in the news some times.

What's really odd is the fact that many of them fight for privacy on the net, then happily shares the most intimate things (perhaps not the same people, I just see them as a cohort. :laugh: )

We even have soldiers, around the world, still using their little "face-my-book"-thingy; I can understand that it's nice to keep contact with friends and family, but they, also, happily jabber about all things, some even secret. I know very well that they are informed and it is being monitored. On the other hand, to be fair, at home, some people lose an entire dossier or flash memory with secret files...

So, I often wonder who brought up these guys, now being around 20-30, and which other changes in society might have affected them.

Sad to hear that Geoff; it's well known that recruiting, training etc. cost a lot, in most cases.
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GeoffW wrote:What sort of deadhead employee ...
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