What shrub is that? (Solved!)

[ChrisGreaves]

Solved! here.
I seek help in identifying this shrub.
A complete set of photos can be seen at http://www.chrisgreaves.com/WhatShrubIsThat/WhatShrubIsThat.htm

The shrub - in the driveway of the "my" apartment building - has grown to about eight feet high.
It is difficult to see in the main photos because it blends into the background of the tree behind it.
The pods, looking a bit like a wild rose hip - are about 1.5 centimeters diameter, just over half an inch.

I can't recall seeing flowers on the shrub, but I suppose it must have flowered!
(later: I just thought to check Google Maps Street view at "M9C 2A6" in Canada and I can see white blossoms there!)

No major life-shaping decisions hang on this; I plan to plant the pods to see if I can raise four shrubs from them, and if i succeed would like to have them labeled.

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[Samantha]

I can't tell from the larger photo -- is the leaf simple or compound? Does it attach directly to the branch or does it appear in a group of 3-5 other leaflets with the group attached to the branch?

[Leif]

It almost looks like the Dog Rose in this: Rose hip - Wikipedia

[ChrisGreaves]

Does it attach directly to the branch or does it appear in a group of 3-5 other leaflets with the group attached to the branch?

Ooooh! Don't go all technical on me (grin!)
I have updated the web page with two more full-size photos taken this morning.
It's a twiggy sort of bush, but that may be because it is crowded out and possibly hacked by various superintendents over the years.
Here's a stripped-down version of one of the two new photos:

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[HansV]

It looks like some kind of viburnum - I'd almost say maple-leaf viburnum, but that has dark blue to purple berries instead of orange ones.

[ChrisGreaves]

It looks like some kind of viburnum - I'd almost say maple-leaf viburnum, but that has dark blue to purple berries instead of orange ones.

Yabbut (speaking like a true Canadian) when I look up Wiki although the blossoms are white, I see things with berries, whereas my shrub is definitely a hip-like fruit.
I should pay more attention in the spring I guess ...

I have a car next week; maybe I'll take a leaf and fruit to Plant World.

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[Goshute]

I'm with Leif - looks like a rose of some kind - there are a number of thornless (or very few thorns) rambling and climbing roses. Chris, can you get us a pic of the flowers?

[ChrisGreaves]

... can you get us a pic of the flowers?

Not until next spring, I'm afraid!
Here is a screenshot from Google maps ("M9C 2A6") street view.
Not very good, and zooming in doesn't help.

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[HansV]

... whereas my shrub is definitely a hip-like fruit.

OK, so it probably is a rose. But the dog rose, which is the one best know for rose hips, has the round(ish) leaves typical of roses, whereas your shrub appears to have lobed leaves...

[ChrisGreaves]

But the dog rose ... whereas your shrub appears to have lobed leaves...

Hans, If you are trying to lure me into hijacking my own thread with a rotten pun about el lobo ....
I think I'll wait until plant World and then report back.
Thanks to all so far.

[Hey Jude]

My guess is a hawthorn variety which we have here. Check this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crataegus_sanguinea Crataegus sanguinea (common names Redhaw Hawthorn or Siberian hawthorn

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My mother loved these trees and used to make jelly from the berries--none of us liked it because it wasn't strawberry, but it's an acquired taste I suppose for children.

[Hey Jude]

If you check out "Pome" you'll find this description http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pome

In botany, a pome (after the Latin word for fruit: pōmum) is a type of fruit produced by flowering plants in the subfamily Maloideae of the family Rosaceae.

That would be suggestive of why the fruit resembles rose hips.

[ChrisGreaves]

My guess is a hawthorn variety ...

"The flowers are small, white in color, and occur in clusters"
This makes sense.
Your attached image is pretty well what I see on my desk (or at least, did see, until the leaves shriveled up).
Thanks Hey Jude.

[Hey Jude]

you are so very welcome

[Goshute]

My guess is a hawthorn variety which we have here. Check this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crataegus_sanguinea Crataegus sanguinea (common names Redhaw Hawthorn or Siberian hawthorn

:thumbup:I think you nailed it, Jude, and it would certainly handle those chilly Canadian winters. The Bride is Canadian and probably would have figured it out, but I cant lure her to Eileen's.

[Hey Jude]

We have pretty harsh winters here in NW Ohio too. We border Lake Erie to the East and Lake Michigan is 2 1/2 hours due West. We had them as well when we lived in Rhode Island as kids, that's what triggered my memory :-)
I remember pricking our fingers on those barbs *OUCH* so careful Chris.

[ChrisGreaves]

I seek help in identifying this shrub.

The nice lady at Plant World in Toronto identified it as a crab-apple. It's shrub-like appearance can be ascribed to lack of proper maintenance etc.
My guess is that it sprang from a crab-apple dropped by a child several years ago. It's position between a larger tree and the fence would have preserved it from the nosy brats who ride power mowers here once a week ...

Thanks for all the suggestions.