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Re: Yellow and Very Green things, ans some Blue Triffids...

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DocAElstein wrote:
06 Jun 2024, 15:53
...my garden has a history of having strange mutations...
None of these are mutations, they are separate species.
DocAElstein wrote:
06 Jun 2024, 15:53
...There is something new appearing just now..
Likewise, not a mutation, just another type of plant. It is an Echium vulgare, commonly known as Viper's Bugloss:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echium_vulgare

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PS In a previous post you mentioned white lilac. There's nothing mysterious about that either. There are many cultivars of the basic plant:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syringa_v ... #Cultivars
The colours of the blooms range from a true lilac to pure white. We have one in our garden that has deep purple blooms that are edged with white:
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Yellow and Very Green things, and some Blue Triffids...

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Yeh, I decided that latest blue thing was not a lupin, ( and added lupin to my word dictionary , ;) :) ) – I kept my eyes open on the way to drink some SchlappenBier at "my" railway station last night – sure enough there were a few around, all very small compared to mine . Nevertheless I brought one back and put it in the blue bucket . Nice shade of blue actually to match a few things at the front of the house, maybe I should get some more. I won’t pick mine yet, or wait till it blows down, which it likely will, it’s at 1.5m. Not as big as the Triffids next to it which I just had to tie back , or else they start attacking passers-by, especially on windy days. ( I let them loose when local town officials are snooping about). They have hit the 2m now, and when they approach 2.5m-3m mark they usually start flowering. Strangely the blue flowers only open from early sun until about midday, then they have a mid day nap, like me, but they don’t open up again until the next early morning sun. I am currently claiming that these ones were planted by the others, the originals, on their secret evening walks. The Triffid pics from last year, in my last post , are the originally. They have gone away until next year. (If you want to suggest what they are, please put it in a spoiler, - I am waiting still to see what the neighbour thinks they are.)


There certainly are a few mutations and monstrosities in my Garden. Perhaps my botanical efforts in more recent years are more normal and pleasant in comparison, Lol.

I was not suggesting that the white Lilacs themselves were mysterious. Just their behaviour is untypical for them this year. The neighbours were as usual: The white ones are usually the less dominant and seem to end a bit quicker. Mine were bigger this year and seemed to last a few weeks longer. Usually end April / Early May is Lilac time here.
Yours are probably a month later.
Possibly some external things, natural and unnatural, effected my white ones this year….
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Re: I didn't buy them

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DocAElstein wrote:
07 Jun 2024, 13:18
There certainly are a few mutations ...
I pedantically put it to you-all that every plant alive on Earth is a mutation. I am occasionally engaged in a discussion with a local "Newfoundland Wildflowers" guru, and we circle warily around terms like "weed", "wildflower", "native species" and so on.
Mutation, I believe, is what drives the generation of species. ("speciation")
Most mutations die out within one generation, yes?
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That looks like Viper's Bugloss. We have them sprout up randomly at times. The birds must eat their seeds and then plant them for us. (Edit: Just noticed that Ken has already pointed that out!)

We bought a pack of assorted annuals from Aldi in the Spring. I had not even heard of some of them. One of them was Livingstone Daisy and they're fascinating! In the morning they're all closed up and sleepy.

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Then when the sun shines on them they come to life!

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Another one is Godetia, they have grown up quite well, don't know how they will flower but we're quite looking forward to it!

Our Lupins started to sprout in the spring but then the slugs got them.
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That's why they're called daisy. It's short for days eye
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StuartR wrote:
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That's why they're called daisy. It's short for days eye

Well that makes sense now! Thanks.
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StuartR wrote:
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That's why they're called daisy. It's short for days eye
Also "Margaret"?
On a personal note, the failure of my first marriage to Margaret is My Regret. :groan:
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How about your second marriage to Margaret? :doh:
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HansV wrote:
08 Jun 2024, 13:27
How about your second marriage to Margaret? :doh:
Ooops! :blush: I meant to send that as a PM to Stuart. Still and all, since Stuart is in Security my post is safe ...

... but since you ask, I'm looking forward to it!
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Very wet and Green

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Graeme wrote:
08 Jun 2024, 09:56
Our Lupins started to sprout in the spring but then the slugs got them.
Possibly your weather was a bit wet like ours, - that seems to encourage the little buggers to go walk about.
It’s actually turned out to be a bit Lupinless here, sadly.
Maybe wetness is to blame there as well…
My original Lupin post this year suggested I had been smart discovering the first few appearing in unusual hidden/ sheltered places….. well I might have done a smart thing based on the wrong assumption. It does not look like the field will turn purple this year, so if i had not got those "early Lupins", I probably wouldn't have had any to astound the neighbours with... . Shortly before my discovery we had another all-time record heavy rain downpour. (Less special in itself, sadly and worrying almost every weather extreme seems to set a new record :( )
This pic should be predominantly purple, as it usually is middle June.
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Instead it is particularly green. I don’t think now it will turn purple. I guess the Lupins had the equivalent of a few buckets of water dropped on them, and if that did not kill them, then the wetness encouraged Slug and Snail & co to go walk about

Still look on the bright side. In this panoramic view (made using my advance Snipping Tool skills , :innocent: ), you see a rather nice green Bush row. A few years back that would have been some wild trees, the white barked ones. But your German track worker colleagues are weird troop. They seem to sleep mostly in their van in a quiet spot. Then they get bored and do a short Blitz Krieg with various motor powered blade contraptions , seeming randomly, on some innocent peaceful area of foliage. They massacred those trees in such an action a few years back. But a lucky combination of the extreme wetness and some adjustments I made earlier this year to the local irrigation systems, :innocent: , is making the tree stubs sprout into beautiful green Bushes alongside the approach of "my" branch line to the main line. Those bushes look a lot healthier than the trees themselves ever did, previously suffering from hot dry weather of the last decade or so..
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DocAElstein wrote:
11 Jun 2024, 08:31
...this panoramic view (made using my advance Snipping Tool skills...
Can I suggest you use a proper panorama stitching application to create a view like this? You don't have to pay money for such an application, a search will return various options.

The most powerful such tool is probably Hugin (https://hugin.sourceforge.io/) but the quickest and simplest is Microsoft's Image Composite Editor (MS ICE) but MS stopped supporting it a long time ago and you can no longer download it from MS. That means you either take the risk of downloading it from a third party or you ask me nicely by PM if I can maker a copy of the installer available to you.

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stuck wrote:
11 Jun 2024, 10:59
...quickest and simplest is Microsoft's Image Composite Editor (MS ICE) but MS stopped supporting it a long time ago and you can no longer download it from MS. That means you either take the risk of downloading it from a third party or you ask me nicely by PM if I can maker a copy of the installer available to you.
Thanks for that kind offer, Ken. An older MS software that they no longer support is often something worth having, and getting a copy from someone rather that risking a third party is definitively a preferred thing for me to do.
Maybe later perhaps if the offer is still on I would take you up on it. Just now I am a bit behind on all the computer things I want to get on with.
But it would be nice to get a bit better in taking pics some time in the future. I only started getting a bit interested in recent years, as I have been wandering around about a bit in some interesting/ odd places, discovering a few forgotten things along the way..
Perhaps later I must get out of the stone age and maybe get a smart phone like everyone else on this planet, even if only to make pictures (and as a back up/alternative video making source for another project of mine… )
For just a bit longer I will hold out for that characteristic interesting raw look of mine, including the date stamp from January 2008…. - I got 3 old cameras (Casio Exilim EX-Z80). The best one seized up last year, I am on the second one now that does not keep the date after a battery change which I have to do very frequently so I can’t be bothered to reset the date every time. (It will be my downfall if they use that to trace back some pics I made to me, Lol)
I can’t remember what was wrong with the third or if it ever worked, so maybe it won’t be too long before I am forced onto better things. I wont have too many more pretty flower pics this year, ( well not until my wheelbarrows start blooming ). The recent torrential short downpours have changed the color of things this year. Otherwise we would already be starting to go burnt everywhere as we usually go from winter to summer quick and the last few over hot summers have burnt many things. I expect in a few days this wet reprieve will be over.
I just finished today helping a close neighbour clear some sludge away that caught him when it rained too much. While there I noticed a whole lot of that new strain of small blue Triffid Lupins ( aka Echium vulgare Viper's Buglos ). Strange I missed them just a stones throw away from my back door. I probably missed them as that slope gets a lot of sun and usually has not much more than a bit of burnt grass and weeds on it. I will remember this June as the early summer of 2024 when a lot of Lupin – like things took over, ( and the real Lupins had a bad time drowning or getting eaten )
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