GMail being smart for Thunderbird

[ChrisGreaves]

This is not a bug or a complaint. I expressed surprise at something in my email yesterday.

I am in the habit of sending emails to myself via the GMail ap on my smartphone; essentially memos late at night that will pop up in my Thunderbird InBox first thing in the morning. I live in Thunderbird rather than in the GMail workspace.

Sunday, off site, I sent a link to my neighbour (Kerry) from my phone. "You are offline; email will be senr later". That is OK. Next time my phone connects to WiFi, Kerry will receive the link, and there's no need to wait until I get to my laptop/Thunderbird; I don't need a record of having sent the email.

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Surprise! Yesterday morning a record of the "sent" email pops up in Thunderbird.
I didn't expect that.
I thought that GMail would just treat me as someone using Google Mail. You sent an email and a copy now sits in your Google Mail "Sent" box.

But something somewhere is clever enough to appear to say "I guess you'll be wanting a copy for your Thunderbird filing system.

Cheers, Chris

[RonH]

In my book, Gmail/T'bird work very well together. What I particularly like are the T'bird Local Folders enabling me to retain necessary mails offline.

[ChrisGreaves]

In my book, Gmail/T'bird work very well together. What I particularly like are the T'bird Local Folders enabling me to retain necessary mails offline.

Agreed, and agreed-in-part .

I am used to GMails that I send to myself from my phone ending up in my TBird Inbox; after all, that's my motive in sending myself an email from my phone - to receive a memo IN TBird. I was surprised to receive a copy of an email sent from the phone to a 3rd-party; that suggests that TBird examines the GMail SENT box and collects a copy of any email sent from GMail but not sent from TBird.
Rather like a personal secretary making a carbon-copy "For your files, Mister Greaves"

I am not happy with TBird's approach to offline storage. I have messed up several accumulations of mail by not properly identifying/marrying the pair of files that constitute a TBird Mail Folder. Two Windows files in a single Windows folder represent a single TBird folder (such as Inbox or 2024).
The name-pairs are something like "Inbox2022" and "Inbox2022.MSF" .

One of these days ...

Cheers, Chris

[RonH]

Ken helped me solve this years ago ... install a program called Mailstore Free and link to T'bird. It's excellent and all mails are shown as in T'bird

[ChrisGreaves]

Ken helped me solve this years ago ... install a program called Mailstore Free and link to T'bird. It's excellent and all mails are shown as in T'bird

Oh well, If Ken endorses it ...

"With MailStore Home, you can keep all your emails safe and sound in a central archive, even if they’re spread across different computers, programs or mailboxes. Another benefit is that you can open archived emails to reply to them or forward them with just a single mouse click, all in your usual email program. In addition, you’ll be able to browse your entire email communications quickly and simply via the archive."

Is this the beast? If so then it will operate (for me) as a front-end to Thunderbird, doing what Thunderbird neglects to do (that is, make mailbox look like single folders or single files in Windows.

Thanks, Chris

[RonH]

Yep, give it a go

[Ted Myers]

Hi Chris, it looks as if your using IMAP in TB.
I use POP3, any gmail I send puts a copy in TB. Mail sent from TB puts a copy in Gmail.
If I delete an email from any location, is stays on the other one.

[RonH]

I use IMAP also Ted and it's a breeze. Having problems just at present though... just got a new pc, installed T'bird and Mailstore but can't seem to link. Maybe something to do with T'bird 228. More investigating!

[stuck]

...just got a new pc, installed T'bird and Mailstore but can't seem to link...

I can't find it now but I read somewhere about how most IMAP mail applications now require 'modern authentication' but, at the moment, this need for two factor authentication means Mailstore Home can't access some IMAP accounts. I also read that Mailstore are working to get there software approved as 'trusted', which means it then be able to access IMAP mail.

I'll keep searching and if I find where I read this I'll post the link.

Ken

[stuck]

This isn't the link I was thinking of but it might help:
    https://community.mailstore.com/en/t/fr ... ments/4240

It doesn't mention Thunderbird, only Gmail and MS mail applications, but I'm pretty sure this will be the cause of Ron's connection problems.

Ken

[RonH]

Quite likely Ken. I'll sit tight to wait for a solution. Prior T'bird releases functioned OK

[stuck]

It will probably be worth asking about this on the Mailstore forum:
    https://community.mailstore.com/en/

Ken

[RonH]

I did that but they are 'quiet' ...
Think time maybe.

[ChrisGreaves]

... got a new pc, installed T'bird and Mailstore but can't seem to link. Maybe something to do with T'bird 228.

Ron, might you post your error details?
Here are mine after two attempts:-

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I have joined the MailStore forums.
Cheers, Chris

[RonH]

Chris,
This is the path that seems to be required - see your log report. The Mailstore report states that it fails to find prefs.js at the end of chain.
You appear to have the identical issue... so it's not me in the setup but either T'bird or Mailstore.
Hopefully they will 'shake hands'. I'm not having much luck in either forum.

I thought it was me doing something wrong so apologies for sending you to Mailstore, though when it works it is brilliant.

C:\Users\wtrh\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles\741kq2if.default\prefs.js

[RonH]

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This is my log report

[stuck]

The link I was looking for turns out to be a page here in The Lounge:
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php ... 31#p321331

Ken

[RonH]

The link I was looking for turns out to be a page here in The Lounge:
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php ... 31#p321331

Ken

Keith indicates 12 Oct that his is solved... not solved with me and it seems Chris. Keeping a watch

[stuck]

...Keith indicates 12 Oct that his is solved...

Yes but his problem was with trying to get Mailstore to talk to the Gmail servers, Mailstore is now 'trusted' by Gmail. Mailstore have alos said they are working on ensuring it will be 'trusted' by the MS mail servers. What there doesn't seem to be any word on is when / if the Thunderbird mail servers will trust Mailstore.

Ken

[ChrisGreaves]

What there doesn't seem to be any word on is when / if the Thunderbird mail servers will trust Mailstore.

... and this, I assume, refers to MailStore being able to talk to Thunderbird as Thunderbird goes about its regular use.

I am looking for that; but also, a way to have MailStore archive what are now stand-alone or orphaned mail folders, over and beyond the mail folders currently parented under the current account or installation profile of Thunderbird.

Cheers, Chris