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These plants came from a packet of seeds titled "Asian vegetables", and I planted them because all the other leaf/greens seeds had been snapped up.
The leaf is about 4cm long, and the plants are but six cm tall, at most.
They have sprouted petite florets/heads, and frankly I could have bought a Boston lettuce (imported) from the Convenience Store for less outlay.

I am getting smarter and thought to submit the image to Google Images, but turned up no hits.

I think that this is a spinach-like beast - eat it raw in salads or perhaps boil it tenderly.

If anyone can shed light I'd be grateful.
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Assuming you have a relatively modern mobile telephone with a camera, try:
LeafSnap - Plant Identification – Apps on Google Play
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Pl@ntNet Identify
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Leif wrote:
09 Jul 2020, 15:49
Assuming you have a relatively modern mobile telephone with a camera, try:
LeafSnap - Plant Identification – Apps on Google Play
or
Pl@ntNet Identify
Leif,

Thanks for the links. They came in handy as I was trying to identify some pesky weeds in the yard.
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Leif wrote:
09 Jul 2020, 15:49
Assuming you have a relatively modern mobile telephone with a camera, try:
Hello Leif. I should have known that you would be first to respond to my image :evilgrin:

I could not install the ap on my newer LG-K30; The Google Ap store claims it is not associated with my device (although I am logged in), and the separately downloaded APK file refuses to install.
I managed to get it running on my older Moto-X but the leaf isn't recognised. I shall try again this morning with a full shot of leaf and flowers.
An alternate plan is to visit our two supermarkets and ask the friendly produce managers.
I did eat a leaf yesterday, and it tasted and felt like the leaves in expensive salads sold at fancy restaurants.
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ChrisGreaves wrote:
09 Jul 2020, 15:44
The leaf is about 4cm long, and the plants are but six cm tall, at most.
They have sprouted petite florets/heads, and frankly I could have bought a Boston lettuce (imported) from the Convenience Store for less outlay.
This Link interested me after I thought "Asian leaf vegetable like spinach, could be Bok Choy" and searched for "bok choy flowers".
The image resembles my stuff, and the thread suggests that the vegetable can "bolt" after a spell of warm weather.
I shall lop off the flowers on all but one plant (seeds for next year!), and start eating salads as fast as I can in an effort to promote more growth.

The older Moto-X phone keeps dropping the internet when i am outside, so the Plant Ap work is suspended for a while, although I see from other comments here and elsewhere that it is a good resource.

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I have a different plant app (PlantSnap) but it didn't identify your leaf.

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I thought it might be bok choi or pak choi.
Have a look in your local supermarket. :smile:
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I loaded your photo into the two apps I have with the following results:
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Screenshot_20200710-140140_PlantNet.jpg

So my best guess is it's a Siberian Elephant Tea Leaf
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That should do well in Bonavista's permafrost...
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Leif wrote:
10 Jul 2020, 13:09
So my best guess is it's a Siberian Elephant Tea Leaf
Red flowers? Ah, the picture with flowers is from a link Chris found.
HansV wrote:
10 Jul 2020, 13:16
That should do well in Bonavista's permafrost...
Iced tea!
(If it's a Bergenia it should be a survivor, Chris.)
silverback wrote:
10 Jul 2020, 11:48
I thought it might be bok choi or pak choi.
Have a look in your local supermarket. :smile:
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Certainly looks like it on some images.
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jstevens wrote:
09 Jul 2020, 19:37
Assuming you have a relatively modern mobile telephone with a camera, try:
Hello Leif.
A belated follow-up.
After I installed the PlantSnap3.0 on my old Moto-X (which was somewhat weak on WiFi outside the house), I found the APK and d/l that to my modern LG-K30.
The installed APK refuses to work because, it says, PlantSnap is installed on my old Moto-X!
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I took a screen snapshot after using the up/down cartes to show the faint messages, but that message didn't show in the snapshot, although it appeared in the purple-outlined area.
I thought I was being so clever diagnostically.

So then I thought "I'll use the old phone to photograph the screen on the new phone ..." (And that way madness lies) but now that messages doesn't show up. ...
So next time I'm outside (we have a frost advisory until Saturday morning!) I will grab a few sprigs of stuff and bring them indoors to process on the old Moto-X.

Assuming that works I shall then try uninstalling from the Moto-X to see if the new phone will then play with me.

I appreciate your help, and I have noted the great comments about the ap.
It will take me another day or two to get rid of my backlogs and jump back on board!
Thanks again
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HansV wrote:
10 Jul 2020, 13:16
That should do well in Bonavista's permafrost...
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Hans, you just HAD to wake them up, didn't you! :cranky: :cranky: :cranky:
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ChrisGreaves wrote:
09 Jul 2020, 15:44
... If anyone can shed light I'd be grateful....
And so two years ago I installed LeafSnap and PlantSnap on my phone. Today I would like to converse with anyone who has used two or more aps simultaneously, to identify plants.
But I'll also discuss my logic with any callers.
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Last week a neighbour who buys new plants each year, and who used to send them to the landfill site at the end of each year, gave me a plant. A shrubby little thing in a 10-inch hanging basket. Reminded me of the sorts of wild stuff I used to see in the sand dunes around Esperance WA (Think "San Diego CA).
The first paired images are from LeafSnap: using the flower it says "calibrachoa", and using the leaf, right at the bottom, its third guess by the leaf appears to be "calibrachoa".
The second paired images are from PlantSnap: using the flower it says it is a hibiscus (possible), and using the leaf it claims "fig".

(1) By presenting two radically different types of species(?) I would say that PlantSnap is not sure at all.
(2) By presenting a match by flower and (hesitantly) by leaf, I would say that LeafSnap is confident.
(3) Based on this data alone, I would go with LeafSnap and label the plant calibrachoa

Of course I will now look up "calibrachoa" and see how closely a separate web site matches the description to my shrub.

How successful have you been in setting two aps against each other, and letting them vote?

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I've used plantsnap with mixed success. It's not as good with Australian native plants.

But just to confuse things even more - Google picture search also attempts to identify plant species.

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I used Google Lens on your image Chris. And I can confirm it's a green leaf!

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I've not got a smart phone so these sort of apps are alien to me. However, I have uploaded images of flowers to Google's image search (https://www.google.com/imghp?hl=en) and from the hits fairly quickly work out what species the flower is.

Meanwhile, if the somewhat pixelated image labelled 'swamp rosemallow' is the actual flower on your mystery plant, as opposed to the apps suggestion of a match to the actual flower which is the too small to see flower in the insert, then that does look like a hibiscus.

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I use PlantNet and Seek, but I usually find that Google Lens performs better than both of them
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stuck wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 17:08
... have uploaded images of flowers to Google's image search (https://www.google.com/imghp?hl=en) and from the hits fairly quickly work out what species the flower is.
Thanks Ken, so Google Images is a third source.
https://lens.google.com/search?p=AU55jv ... p3PT0iXQ==

https://lens.google.com/search?p=AU55jv ... p3PT0iXQ==

Both my original images, cropped to show only the blossom, said "Calibrachoa".

Wikipedia says that "They can be propagated from tip cuttings" so I shall try that indoors over winter.
Wikipedia also says that they " will attract hummingbirds". We shall see if any make their way here from Peru or Chile!
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StuartR wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 17:49
I use PlantNet and Seek, but I usually find that Google Lens performs better than both of them
Thank you Stuart.
I had not heard of Google lens until I pasted the two links in my reply to Ken.
It should not surprise me that Google Images/Lens performs better than mobile aps.
That said I will track down the other two aps that you use and install them.

I can see that aps on a mobile phone will work well when I am out in the field. And in any case, since the aps use my camera, I will always have that solid camera image to feed into Google Image/lens when I get inside.
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Google Lens also works as an app on my mobile phone
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